I have repaired one cedar canvas canoe and as a result, a friend has asked me to take a look at this........
It would seem to be a 17 foot, Y stern / V stern cedar canvas canoe, labeled as a Chestnut.
As well as the Y stern, there are rubbing strakes on the turn of the bilges, 4 thwarts - the foremost with a mast mount, the marks of a mast-foot beneath.
The seats are wooden slats and sited fairly inconveniently (the stern one very close to the stern and the bow one inconveniently close to the thwart).
It looks relatively sound, odd bits of softened wood here and there but stems seem OK. There are three cracked ribs but likely able to be sistered. There is one cracked plank at least.
It needs re-canvassing but the owner wants to fibreglass the outside. I know, I know; it would be so easy to re-canvas but he's determined......
A canoe for the grandchildren (and two for the nephews and nieces!)
Friday 9 August 2019
Thursday 8 September 2016
A tale of two Selway-Fisher Prospectors
A Wagnerian boat-builder...
More years ago than I am
prepared to remember my Mother said of me that I should be a WB-B. Well,
it's Bach or Rachmaninoff from choice but the Boat-building bit came true!
A year ago, after they had come to stay with us at the cottage in the Laurentians (Quebec province, Canada; about 2.5 hours NW of Montreal), Great-niece said that for her “to do list”, she wanted to build her own canoe – as we had done, some years before.
A year ago, after they had come to stay with us at the cottage in the Laurentians (Quebec province, Canada; about 2.5 hours NW of Montreal), Great-niece said that for her “to do list”, she wanted to build her own canoe – as we had done, some years before.
For the preceding Christmas present, her parents had asked me to put together
a Tool-kit list, suitable for building canoes. Apparently, Christmas morning was a series of
mystified “what’s that for?” as each, individually wrapped item was revealed!
Their Mum and I then conspired with a computer-cutting firm in Toronto to receive marine ply direct from Noah’s – an excellent chandlery in Toronto – and to bundle it as sets of planks, ready for SWMBO and myself to collect in the January of 2015 on one of our visits to son-and-heir and his family.
Their Mum and I then conspired with a computer-cutting firm in Toronto to receive marine ply direct from Noah’s – an excellent chandlery in Toronto – and to bundle it as sets of planks, ready for SWMBO and myself to collect in the January of 2015 on one of our visits to son-and-heir and his family.
As a general point, having “done it the other way”, computer cutting is
THE way to go for this job!
So, there we were, July 2015. Ready
for the off. None of the four – Mum, Dad,
Grand-niece or Grand-nephew had ever really handled wood-working tools before. Real “on-the-job-learning was about to begin.
Tuesday, 17th August 2015
There is still heavy rain
about.
The Vermonters are quick learners, starting Monday evening, first job on their new canoes is joining the planks together lengthwise. These were ready by late afternoon and, by bed-time, a new hull was at "first fix". I managed time to steam the replacement rib for Burlesque - I have given up after three attempts to splice a new foot to it - and to fix it later.
The Vermonters are quick learners, starting Monday evening, first job on their new canoes is joining the planks together lengthwise. These were ready by late afternoon and, by bed-time, a new hull was at "first fix". I managed time to steam the replacement rib for Burlesque - I have given up after three attempts to splice a new foot to it - and to fix it later.
Wednesday the 19th of August,
inserting the temporary bulkheads, cutting and fastening the permanent
bulkheads and now, at 6.47, niece is priming the resin joints in the hull and great-niece
has begun the next build.
Phew!
But I haven't been disturbed once in the last hour, although I hear that the heat of the resin has just melted the pot.
Never mind; it's out of the basement ........
Phew!
But I haven't been disturbed once in the last hour, although I hear that the heat of the resin has just melted the pot.
Never mind; it's out of the basement ........
Thursday, 20th August, a long morning levelling and tightening the ligatures on boat one, followed by resin. Boat two begins!
Friday, 21st August, filleting the outside of boat
one, and levelling, tightening, inner filleting, flipping, outer filleting boat
two.
We seem to have been buried in the basement for two whole days now - in fact, apart from meals and trips to the village for more supplies (food and canoe-building) we have been!
We seem to have been buried in the basement for two whole days now - in fact, apart from meals and trips to the village for more supplies (food and canoe-building) we have been!
I went fishing at dusk. We have an evening off!
Nobody seems to know what to do with it.
Saturday, 22nd August. A lovely, chatty email from a friend; here is some
of my reply to him.
“I wish I could capture sound-scapes; I surfaced from the basement at about 4 pm and sat for a glorious hour, sipping a local beer (or two - it'd been a long day, working still on the boats....), making acquaintance with a chipmunk.
“I wish I could capture sound-scapes; I surfaced from the basement at about 4 pm and sat for a glorious hour, sipping a local beer (or two - it'd been a long day, working still on the boats....), making acquaintance with a chipmunk.
(It's very one-sided, I am fully aware that I am only appreciated for my peanuts!), listening to a near-wood full of blue jays, a further wood with a woodpecker and a furtive sap-sucker, a quad bike somewhere behind the hill and a loon on the lake.”
In the morning, we had
transported the boats out into the sun-shine (honest!) to sand them down.
They once again returned to their dungeon for cloaking and epoxy application!
Later, after a leisurely
supper, I sat in the screen room, sipping Vermont 'Tomcat'; a gifted gin,
seemingly richly flavoured with resin and aromatics, listening to cicadas in
the trees around and Monteverdi Vespers of 1610 forming an improbable
accompaniment to my typing!
And then I was again
called to the basement to help out - NOT the best recipe for success, but
success we had!
The Vermonters left today,
Sunday the 23rd. It's been a great week. We had hoped to
steam gunwales this morning, but we won't finish. In fact, the second and
third, filling coats of epoxy went on today. Pity, but pretty impressive
progress nonetheless.
Emotional involvement (and
my own chores and pass-times) will mean that I won't go ahead finish the job in
their absence, although I shall have to fillet and epoxy the insides.
Fixing gunwales and seats will have to wait.
2016
Tuesday, 26th July, was
a bit manic. Having discovered my steamer (hooray) in the dark recesses
of the shelves in the basement (!) I just had to get on and steam-bend one end
of each of the gunwales for the Vermont
boats.
It worked quite well (1" oak it is!) but - and I've forgotten this from before although I warn everyone about it - I've now run out of clamps.
It worked quite well (1" oak it is!) but - and I've forgotten this from before although I warn everyone about it - I've now run out of clamps.
Fortunately, Canadian Tire were having a sale on C Clamps. I bought 20 plus.
I decided to steam the other
ends of the gunwales on Vermont
boat 2 - using the "boil in the bag" system and my multiple new
clamps.
Clifford Pope, of Pembrokeshire, on 22-11-08, wrote: "Steam in a
bag. Clamp the wood at one end, slide on a piece of polythene tube, or sections
cut from old fertiliser sacks folded and stapled, stuff rags in the end,
connect up to DIY wallpaper steamer.
Bend the wood gradually, waiting just long enough for it to be soft enough, clamping and sliding the polythene along as you go."
Here's a more recent video clip. "Published on 11 Mar 2014. Shipwright Louis Sauzedde shows us his trick for steam-bending frames using plastic bags rather than a traditional steam box. The frames are steamed right in position on the side of the boat so that no heat is lost and the frames can continue to steam even after being clamped into position."
Bend the wood gradually, waiting just long enough for it to be soft enough, clamping and sliding the polythene along as you go."
Here's a more recent video clip. "Published on 11 Mar 2014. Shipwright Louis Sauzedde shows us his trick for steam-bending frames using plastic bags rather than a traditional steam box. The frames are steamed right in position on the side of the boat so that no heat is lost and the frames can continue to steam even after being clamped into position."
I made the tube out of polythene folded on itself and fastened longitudinally
with duct tape. And it works!
Thanks, Mr Pope, Mr Sauzedde!
The plan is to steam the other ends "in situ" - but not without some more clamps!
Thanks, Mr Pope, Mr Sauzedde!
The plan is to steam the other ends "in situ" - but not without some more clamps!
So - back to the basement.
Of interest - the left hand image is of the outwale steamed by the traditional - box (or pipe) - method. The right hand image was steamed "boil in the bag"!
Can you tell the difference?
Of interest - the left hand image is of the outwale steamed by the traditional - box (or pipe) - method. The right hand image was steamed "boil in the bag"!
Can you tell the difference?
Wednesday, 3rd August.
Thursday, 4th August.
Off early to the village - well, to a friend’s wonderfully equipped workshop
actually - to make the first cuts on the inwales for the Vermont boats.
The plan is to taper the ends of the inwales so as to make the steam-bending easier and to give a more aesthetically pleasing line to the wood!
The plan is to taper the ends of the inwales so as to make the steam-bending easier and to give a more aesthetically pleasing line to the wood!
The blue rectangle is the initial, 16ft long by 7/8 inch
(this is Canada
- none of your metric stuff here, Eh!?) square oak.
The cuts at each end take off a 1/4 of an inch - 2/8ths. I then plane a smooth line from about 6 inches (Hush at the back!) central to the ends of the cuts on to the flats - by bending the ends downwards and effectively planing the outside of a curve!
Then I steamed and bent the first inwale in to the curve. Easy! Er, not actually, but straightforward anyway and a GREAT deal easier than when we steamed the gunwales for MarRon all those years ago!
The cuts at each end take off a 1/4 of an inch - 2/8ths. I then plane a smooth line from about 6 inches (Hush at the back!) central to the ends of the cuts on to the flats - by bending the ends downwards and effectively planing the outside of a curve!
Then I steamed and bent the first inwale in to the curve. Easy! Er, not actually, but straightforward anyway and a GREAT deal easier than when we steamed the gunwales for MarRon all those years ago!
Monday, 8th August.
Thursday, 11th of August.
Grabbed some supper and then back to the boatyard / basement
to steam and bend the last outwale for V1.
As I mailed the Vermonters earlier. "About 3 hours behind where I wanted to be in a perfect world, but ostensibly "There". Looking forward to seeing you all."
As I mailed the Vermonters earlier. "About 3 hours behind where I wanted to be in a perfect world, but ostensibly "There". Looking forward to seeing you all."
Saturday, 13th August.
Out fairly early to buy timber for Nephew and Great-nephew to make a pair of
canoe-stands (they had brought used seat-belts from the scrap yard back home as
suggested!); and to reinforce mine, too. It has tended to lean in towards
the middle when weighted!
Making the stands (of which the lads were justifiably proud!) took until about lunch-time; at which point we returned from a generous but light collection of humus and pitta and all things middle-Eastern to start on the fiddly, messy and generally horrible job of glassing the bow and stern tanks on both boats. I hate fibre-glassing!
Which left us with the main inner hulls to do either side of a rather late supper.
However; setting up for this we found ourselves very tight for fibre-glass
and, finishing which (a centre section on each boat only), we decided that we
were too short for resin to continue and very tight for fabric anyway.
A message left on web-sites overnight confirmed that ordering more of our particular resin, next-day delivery, was the way to go. We shall add some more cloth to the order......
A message left on web-sites overnight confirmed that ordering more of our particular resin, next-day delivery, was the way to go. We shall add some more cloth to the order......
Sunday, 14th August.
Back home, gunwales dry fitted and beginning the process of making the decks. We're having to recess the inwales to accept the decks lower than the outwales.
Back home, gunwales dry fitted and beginning the process of making the decks. We're having to recess the inwales to accept the decks lower than the outwales.
Great-niece is learning to use a spokeshave and a chisel; Great-nephew is
deeply useful measuring and clamping and cutting out!
Monday, 15th August; we
contacted Noah's in Toronto
and ordered resin and glass cloth. They said we would have delivery by
tomorrow to Ottawa / Aylmer or three days later to here. So
we asked for it to be sent to friends there - and then asked them whether it was OK for that to happen.
Phew! It was!
We kept going with this and that on the two boats until the evening when we bit the bullet and glued in the inwales, countersinking screws every 6"; a VERY sticky and successful job which ended at about 12.30pm.
We kept going with this and that on the two boats until the evening when we bit the bullet and glued in the inwales, countersinking screws every 6"; a VERY sticky and successful job which ended at about 12.30pm.
Tuesday, 16th August -
and news of the latest Tracking!
The two parcels got split
up! One has arrived in Aylmer and one went
to Vaughan -
wherever that is - before returning to Toronto Central sorting.
Still. Silver linings......
The Vermont 4 have cut and more-or-less fitted the deck panels, as well as making fillets for the tips of the inwales!
Wednesday, 17th August.
During the day, N, G-N, G-Nw and I sized and fitted the seats and thwarts to the inwales.
The shipping company's tracker
was still not playing ball. In the end, we arranged for SWMBO and N to go
via friends’ (the glass fibre had been delivered there but the resin,
seemingly, had not), just in case the resin had in fact arrived, but heading to
a chandlery in Kingston as a back-up purchase if needed.
And by the time that they got
to Aylmer, the
resin had arrived - to the complete mystification of the shipping
company. So, duly refreshed and conversation caught up with, they
returned in time for supper. After which we got to grips with more
fibre-glassing and fitting outwales. A messy job!
Thursday, 18th August. The day of the big push!
Thursday, 18th August. The day of the big push!
Second boat outwales; decks;
final inner fibreglass.....
My right shoulder gave up! I couldn't do any more after a delicious supper and took to my bed.
My right shoulder gave up! I couldn't do any more after a delicious supper and took to my bed.
Friday, 19th August. Very uncomfortable and SWMBO had to dress me for
breakfast, complete with sling - like some ancient, Japanese warrior donning
clothes for battle!
And then there it was - better!
Bizarre. A blessedly short attack this time.
The workshop crew were up early to sand down the gunwales and re-fit the seats and then - they were gone!
It's a long way back to the Vermont camp, and so the launch will be deferred until they arrive "home".
I think that we can be rightly proud of the finished products.
The workshop crew were up early to sand down the gunwales and re-fit the seats and then - they were gone!
It's a long way back to the Vermont camp, and so the launch will be deferred until they arrive "home".
I think that we can be rightly proud of the finished products.
And so - away.
Good trip - much
learning; many laughs, lovely veggie food. Fun!
Friday 3 June 2016
Proud Grandpa!
The launch in context.
Well, Coltishall was blooming cold; Great Hautbois was wet - mostly - but spirits were undampened, even if there was considerable use of the black sacks for over-skirts and ponchos! Never forget the black sacks!
The CanoeMan staff were super helpful, ferrying us around and loaning at least one adult waterproof. Thanks guys!
So - the well-known first day's paddle down from Aylsham to Great Hautbois - 14.4km by Google Earth. Grandparents, Daughter and 3 grand-kids in two canoes! Which bit did the grand-kids like best? The Chute at Aylsham of course! A broken willow tree added an extra portage....... One of the little ones (aged 4!) fell asleep in the boat. Not surprising really.
Here's a couple of them in my boat, meeting swans and cygnets ......
Day two; daughter and grandsons had to head home; sad. SWMBO had really had enough on day one - better safe than sorry. But The Old Man had spoken to the 8 year old grand-daughter the day before and she was up for the trip to Wroxham. The wind had gotten up overnight; we seriously thought about calling it off but I reckoned I could always steer the drift downstream. Wrong!
Wrapped up against the cold (12.5 degrees), and fighting hard against the wind, I overheated. And the seat wouldn't let me kneel and my lower back was murdering me (excuses, excuses....). So we pulled in to the bank and swapped seats - slowly; I really was very uncomfortable.
And my co-paddler had lost the plot a bit. So she turned round to face me and played Lady Muck and we sang, and she admired a demoiselle fly that had taken up residence on her hand; and I found a comfortable twist to my back and we paddled on (or I did).
And we got to the public mooring by St Mary's Church at Wroxham - and the wind really hit us.
And my excellent paddle-partner answered the call, turned round and dug in.
Young people never fail to amaze me; she had never paddled for real, either single or double-blade, until the day before. And now she was making a real difference to the speed and steering of the boat. Mercifully!
Made it! Warmly received by the staff, who had very kindly transported Kingcup to the office the day before. And who then fashioned a "leash" for the little boat (it really was VERY windy) and off she went - and the boat...
This is a great little boat; light as a feather, stable, steerable.
Ratty would be delighted.
Well, Coltishall was blooming cold; Great Hautbois was wet - mostly - but spirits were undampened, even if there was considerable use of the black sacks for over-skirts and ponchos! Never forget the black sacks!
The CanoeMan staff were super helpful, ferrying us around and loaning at least one adult waterproof. Thanks guys!
So - the well-known first day's paddle down from Aylsham to Great Hautbois - 14.4km by Google Earth. Grandparents, Daughter and 3 grand-kids in two canoes! Which bit did the grand-kids like best? The Chute at Aylsham of course! A broken willow tree added an extra portage....... One of the little ones (aged 4!) fell asleep in the boat. Not surprising really.
Here's a couple of them in my boat, meeting swans and cygnets ......
Day two; daughter and grandsons had to head home; sad. SWMBO had really had enough on day one - better safe than sorry. But The Old Man had spoken to the 8 year old grand-daughter the day before and she was up for the trip to Wroxham. The wind had gotten up overnight; we seriously thought about calling it off but I reckoned I could always steer the drift downstream. Wrong!
Wrapped up against the cold (12.5 degrees), and fighting hard against the wind, I overheated. And the seat wouldn't let me kneel and my lower back was murdering me (excuses, excuses....). So we pulled in to the bank and swapped seats - slowly; I really was very uncomfortable.
And my co-paddler had lost the plot a bit. So she turned round to face me and played Lady Muck and we sang, and she admired a demoiselle fly that had taken up residence on her hand; and I found a comfortable twist to my back and we paddled on (or I did).
And we got to the public mooring by St Mary's Church at Wroxham - and the wind really hit us.
And my excellent paddle-partner answered the call, turned round and dug in.
Young people never fail to amaze me; she had never paddled for real, either single or double-blade, until the day before. And now she was making a real difference to the speed and steering of the boat. Mercifully!
Made it! Warmly received by the staff, who had very kindly transported Kingcup to the office the day before. And who then fashioned a "leash" for the little boat (it really was VERY windy) and off she went - and the boat...
This is a great little boat; light as a feather, stable, steerable.
Ratty would be delighted.
Friday 20 May 2016
First gloss coat....
... and the thwart made. But I forgot to photograph that before I turned the boat over for the first gloss coat. It looks pretty in the picture, but the primer is thin in places in an attempt to make things smooth, so the reality is not quite as pretty (yet) as the picture suggests. But time is pressing.
As well as the thwart, I decided to add a layer of glass cloth inside - to resist those little feet and to provide a non-slip surface! And I then epoxied all of the inside. I can varnish it later but at least it's waterproof now.
Finally, I inserted and epoxied in a copper pipe through what will now be the bow, for a painter / safety loop. I have some very clever pipe-surrounds to make it look good in the end.
Think I'll paint the gunwale green and call the boat "Kingcup",
although we all know it's really called W Y C ;-)
Friday 13 May 2016
The clue's in the name.......
..."for the grandchildren"!
So, I can imagine scuffing on the stems and abrasion to the lower edge of the sheer strakes. And I finally decided to apply a layer of glass tape to these external edges. Should have done it from the outset really, but at least this way I have a very smooth base to work from!
Leave the ends until the resin has gelled a little - it's easier to cut.
And peel the surrounding tape before the resin fully sets - it comes off better that way!
So, I can imagine scuffing on the stems and abrasion to the lower edge of the sheer strakes. And I finally decided to apply a layer of glass tape to these external edges. Should have done it from the outset really, but at least this way I have a very smooth base to work from!
Leave the ends until the resin has gelled a little - it's easier to cut.
And peel the surrounding tape before the resin fully sets - it comes off better that way!
Monday 9 May 2016
Stuff happens......
... and sometimes life gets in the way of things.
Never mind; after one or two substantial set-backs - like the sheer planks coming un-epoxied. I'd better go back to the beginning.
I'm really not sure what the intersection should be between the curve of the hull and the sheer planks. I've seen this sort of dipping-down on other examples; I tried to reduce it some by "rounding" the angle E-G-F. On reflection, I think that another time I'll make a width jig to bring the top edges to the required separation, clamp the sheer strakes outside the bottom piece and keep the floor curve smooth. If you see what I mean?
Anyway. I also decided to use epoxy only (no tape) to fasten the seams. It's worked for me before, but the tension in those same sheer-strakes popped the joint. Hmmmm. The stem joints have worked fine; but I might give in and tape all the joints anyway. I just like smooth joints.
Anyway - now it's all together, I need to add the weave-filling resin to the tape which I HAVE used at the vertical sheer joints. And to decide whether to tape all those seams - at least on the inside....
Next step after that is to trial-fit the gunwales so that I can establish the sheer-line. Have managed to find a few more clamps - but I shall need to make some more - as in the plans. But here's a trial fit.
Never mind; after one or two substantial set-backs - like the sheer planks coming un-epoxied. I'd better go back to the beginning.
I'm really not sure what the intersection should be between the curve of the hull and the sheer planks. I've seen this sort of dipping-down on other examples; I tried to reduce it some by "rounding" the angle E-G-F. On reflection, I think that another time I'll make a width jig to bring the top edges to the required separation, clamp the sheer strakes outside the bottom piece and keep the floor curve smooth. If you see what I mean?
Anyway. I also decided to use epoxy only (no tape) to fasten the seams. It's worked for me before, but the tension in those same sheer-strakes popped the joint. Hmmmm. The stem joints have worked fine; but I might give in and tape all the joints anyway. I just like smooth joints.
Anyway - now it's all together, I need to add the weave-filling resin to the tape which I HAVE used at the vertical sheer joints. And to decide whether to tape all those seams - at least on the inside....
Next step after that is to trial-fit the gunwales so that I can establish the sheer-line. Have managed to find a few more clamps - but I shall need to make some more - as in the plans. But here's a trial fit.
Saturday 30 April 2016
I have found this difficult
... OK. Problem number 1; I have four "pump up" clamps, no G clamps and a selection of rather pathetic, plastic "grips"
The bit that I have found particularly difficult is holding the sheer plank ends in tension towards the centre of the boat in order to cut out the "wedge" that will produce the tumblehome. Mark F Pettingill, in his book "Building Sweet Dream" - a two-sheet canoe along the same lines as the present Nessmuk - shows a mid-ships template that both sets the gunwale width and the tumblehome angle. No such template exists for Nessmuk.
But you do need to set the 24" width. In the end (too late really) I made a jig to rest on the gunwales mid-ships and to give me some sort of stability. Without this, everything is just too mobile......
Anyway; I hope and expect that others may be able to tell me what I should have done differently but I have ended up having to cut the gores twice and thus have a 1-2mm gap between the plank ends.... Having tidied up as I went along, I am now going to have to create some wood-dust as a filler!
I still think that I shall have to take out a little more from the left-hand planks in this image - the stem nearest the camera is a bit over to the right to my eye.
I know that the stem tops don't coincide - but I think that's a cutting error, rather than an alignment error.
And I shall just have to bite the bullet and buy some more clamps - aren't they a price? C Clamps in the Laurentians, Canada, come from £2.18; one well-known builder's merchant here in the UK has them from £5.00!
Ho hum - here's the image; a bit more filleting out of the Sheer planks tomorrow I suspect.
The bit that I have found particularly difficult is holding the sheer plank ends in tension towards the centre of the boat in order to cut out the "wedge" that will produce the tumblehome. Mark F Pettingill, in his book "Building Sweet Dream" - a two-sheet canoe along the same lines as the present Nessmuk - shows a mid-ships template that both sets the gunwale width and the tumblehome angle. No such template exists for Nessmuk.
But you do need to set the 24" width. In the end (too late really) I made a jig to rest on the gunwales mid-ships and to give me some sort of stability. Without this, everything is just too mobile......
Anyway; I hope and expect that others may be able to tell me what I should have done differently but I have ended up having to cut the gores twice and thus have a 1-2mm gap between the plank ends.... Having tidied up as I went along, I am now going to have to create some wood-dust as a filler!
I still think that I shall have to take out a little more from the left-hand planks in this image - the stem nearest the camera is a bit over to the right to my eye.
I know that the stem tops don't coincide - but I think that's a cutting error, rather than an alignment error.
And I shall just have to bite the bullet and buy some more clamps - aren't they a price? C Clamps in the Laurentians, Canada, come from £2.18; one well-known builder's merchant here in the UK has them from £5.00!
Ho hum - here's the image; a bit more filleting out of the Sheer planks tomorrow I suspect.
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